1 Houghtaling. Then let the computer process the document and see if it outputs a high quality transcription to the Italian language as it runs through all the possible narratives. Why is the manuscript ( MS-408). Peter: it’s kind of nice to see a younger version of myself on TV, though I am (of course) fitter and buffer now. When you say “lunar phases” do you mean phases of the moon, or the lunar months? Thomas O’Neil says about his book “Voynich Morse Code Steganography Cipher”: Maybe the crown is there just as a memory-jog: sapphire in the such-and-such crown as example of this star’s virtue and so forth? Personally, I think the written part of the VMS text constantly fits easily into the style of technical-abbreviated texts. It’s not the royalties, but the rudeness of the plagiarist who seems to think one’s labours should by rights contribute to his or her welfare. Thus the book was required to be written in their language and writing which was also taught to our renaissance human. Note that one on left is striking forcep guy in the eye (I had more observations but I’ll leave them for now). Mm. Ytr oper tybnaill brii lpert aerwer ytld Thus she is able to peacefully write and draw her book while offering no interference to the apparently slumbering aspects of her mind that formulate the strange characters of her “alphabet,” and string them into meaningless “words” that follow the basic rules of language composition. The present VMS may have been copied from original libellae (c. 1250-1350) as is characterized by designs and washes. late 15th mid 16th cent. Not only rigid letter-to-letter adjacency rules, but also letter-positioning rules, page- / line- / paragraph-positioning rules, and indeed meta-rules (such as Neal keys, both horizontal and vertical). Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B. Hundreds had that before you, but just like you, unfortunately wrong. I could not find but may be someone mentions it was previously. the form for the cross is quite different, but that doesn’t count… she isn’t naked.. but that doesn’t count…”. Of course 2 people with the same theory can come under “great minds think alike” or “fools seldom differ”(though I’m not sure if that is applicable here”, Hey, folks: Rudolph II was not interested in the “zoo” (giraffe and horse). https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/d6oont/ros2_spiral_of_vords_next_to_castle_decrypted/. Ist sie das ? One major difficulty with this idea is that it seems that at least two different writers were involved in producing the manuscript, so it’s hard to view it as one individual’s piece of automatic or writing. “portad” noun feminine A-Declension ablative singular of porta “through the gate” For example, one of the abbreviations for alpha pi rho (apo) is dash—raised dot—vee (with the dash and the vee being attached). To make it easy to see. a secret or disguised way of writing; a code. And if it was, should not we argue that the cross shaped device on the crown also is not a Christian or Latin cross, because the general imagery does not support a European Christian origin theory for the manuscript? cipher1 It’s a slow arduous process, but I’m producing sentences for what I believe Michal was writing. With passage of time, “Urdu” language was forced in the region and subsequently became an official language and in current times known as Sindhi language (Descendant language of Landa script) which is currently written in Urdu script. Just a single page concerns me. I’m seeing something vary fascinating. This may sound crazy but how about this story: Maybe VMS is the transcription of a previously transcribed copy of encrypted text found at Temple Mount during the Crusades and kept by the Knights Templar (Templar from template) where the decryption method/device, urim and thurim, was separately safeguarded by the freemasons (Mason from Masorah) who kept charge of the secret to deciphering the template (template of solomon) that had been found at Temple Mount in Jerusalem; a template that at the time of the Crusades might have been earnestly believed by the Crusaders to be the original source text for the Bible which had been encrypted by the original writers via a one-way encryption as a security measure to prevent tampering/addition of new text to the source (as future leaders would only inherit the decryption key and lack the encryption) and also to provide future leaders a definitive means of verifying the fidelity of future transcriptions of the text with the original source. Once confirmed as a sum he merely referred to his cipher for speed which by extreme focus I figured out. Are there any generally accepted ideas on what the intermediate operation might be? Landa ( Which later became Sindhi, Khudabadi, Khojki ) I have read so many times a typical reply from JKP is yes I was on to that and then he will try and explain. I havn’t found any proof of a rule based calendar. If that was possible it still would not explain what happened to January and February. Folio 16r 1st paragraph decryption process achieved! The origin of the Voynich MS Introduction. In fact, the victim of the pack-attack is as likely enough to be publicly censured by a lobbied administrator for being ‘not nice’ to the abuser. –. ), Singapore stone. Even when Poggio Bracciolini tried to learn about foreign plants, he was unable to do so – no technical terms in common. Of course we could attribute that for the slip of the pen, but as some other pages (e.g. ————————————-, Tom claims on Reddit that 4oPchey on f16r says “marijuana” in Morse code. In the manuscript there is information about “the Holy Grail”. /12) … – .- – .- /13) -. I see 9 eyes, but one seems to be closed. Hope that I got that point across. What in the world can you be sure it’s not anagramed! And that’s exactly the point of cryptography: hiding *and* delusion. Yes this is my opinion, but it is not unfounded or based on my own “findings” solely. def encrypt(message): I’m currently investigating another vary intricate step which may describe the first letter of each vord in Italian, as to indicate through steganography, where to start in my MS Access database along with the sum of the Morse code. And my python code which takes Morse to anagrams and upgrade it so any dot dash input can be arranged into letters then sent to the anagram portion then to an Italian Dictionary! Menno: Could be anything really. By comparing Voynichese to Stolfi’s crust-mantle-core theoretical model, we learn a lot about how Voynichese breaks the kind of simple-minded rules linguists would like to impose upon it. Exists in untranslated ancient books. You will find -aiin suffixes next to -oiin suffixes, so the equivalence is rather -a- with -o- than -a- with -y-. i += 1. I have been studying herbs for myself recently. Also, there are references to plants found only in the Americas- and why not? In fact, I can’t figure out his process because there seems to be no rhyme or reason to it and he doesn’t explain it. (10) From the pictures of the plants and stars, not much has been done to identify the manuscripts. .. .-) is a total of 3 dashes and 5 dots. Only love is a motivation strong enough to endure hardships of a work of this extent (which is why it can’t be a fake, by the way *1). If the Voynich text was a language than a person would not find very many bigram tokens that are reversed to form words! Or suppose this figure does not hold the cross, but it rather estranges from the cross, declines the cross, which is meant to underscore some grave consequences of that. I have to really concentrate to read it or translate it, but your decipherment looks like very bad Italian to me. What would you do? Well here is the translation from f2v using my methods. The ship carrying Ra. First word – Poco. Dear all, a “ps” to my last post. But again, notwithstanding the details, the general picture looks to me natural, reasonable, and consistent. How old is that custom, though? It’s something that I’ve been working on all year: I plan to post about it soon, so please don’t abandon all hope just yet. This idea was done out of the thought that the VMS was produced by alien beings and I know this is funny! But your basic method is the same. Tom Oneil: Mary D’Imperio, God bless her, never disputed the possibilty that VM may have been an elaborate hoax, but surmising that if so, it would have taken many years to achieve so to what end gain. • generate letters for each token, I wish you’d post the rules somewhere.so I (and maybe others) can comply without being admonished for screwing up. For Healing and Knowledge purpose. * / I don’t think error is the reason for many anomalies. Nick, valium? He founded many and many ponds. And there is an example with chevrons and another with roundels and on to papelonny and so on. Nein, das hätte ich nicht gedacht. I’m succeeding where no man has gone before with the VMS. . Has it been solved and the NSA and GCHQ are keeping it a secret from us ? cphesaiin = /……—/./…–/.-/—-/ The book was taken by the “Holy” man from town to town and based on the knowledge he had( He was the go to guy and first person to approach in case of issues, either injury or some depression, bad dreams, marriage and business, Hex etc. ) Germinate plants, put at 1.9! Some day believe me @JKP you will have to come to terms with this VMS text translation. The description of coding method is published in pre-print depository: – Beinecke Library on the Voynich Manuscript That means a few letters. 2. Without specific knowledge, though, this was my stopping point – e.g. I would just point out that a hypothetical manuscript written in Constantinople in 1440 and brought to southern Germany/northern Italy for illumination might well have the same marks. Focus order on consonants first I’m exasperated, but I continue. Who knows? @Ger Tom, I am not dreaming of fame. You need to Beinecke Library ( Ms – 408 ). I’ll give up after this one last try to bring you over to the Dark Side…, http://fumblydiddles.com/table_x_-_decoding_of_professor_stolfis_vms_concordances_most_common_words. Allegory was my thought. et and then reversed to te Perhaps both had access to the original and decided to “re-write” them by their own conclusions and perceptions. “Perhaps this image will change your mind about my research So you’re not right again. Czech language . Are bits painted as they are drawn? The change could be both in the appearance of the writing as well as the style. But are there instances, as with ‘rot’, of these letters being used in this way? Anton, Now, this mightn’t sound like much but in terms of a scientific report it is significant. The Scorpio in the zodiac looks like a lizard. .. /2) …- . It is clear that you still like the ideas about the manuscript which you put into book form nine years ago. author, have divided the number of stars on the first page (68r2) to four sections on the page68r3.there must be a meaning. -.. — – — ……. Encoded character order shifts on a set order with the introduction of new sentences on a given page. I’m only trying to understand your attitude. You peeps let me know if you would like the Access database and I will email it to you. The tighter writing scribe on f24r: In 20 lines, vowel “o” occurs 71 times; “a” occurs 39 times, of which “amt” occurs 9 times and “ant” once; The linked “cc” occurs 24 times with other forms of c, comprising “c”, “cc” “linked cc” with a gallows bisecting them, and a linked “cc” under a diacritical, either “o” or “)” when grouped,, total 10-14 occurrences. The top edge raised outline of the ball near the trunk is used to disguise the letter ‘T’ cross. It is written in signs. 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